Several news agencies (AP link) are reporting today that the game we heard about a while ago has apparently been released. "Rescue the Nuke Scientist," produced by the Union of Students Islamic Association, is being touted as a response to KumaWar's Assault on Iran. When I first blogged on this, the gist of my comment was that this is an interesting way of using games as dialogue, especially since Kuma had announced creating a further mission in response to the Iranian game.
One thing, though, that now strikes me about that potential for discourse is the means for distribution. Kuma has an established platform and delivers their content for free, whereas the creators of Nuke Scientist plan on marketing it first locally then spreading out from there. The problem is that I don't see either game convincing anyone to change their mind if these games are being distributed to mainly sympathetic audiences. And if we imagine there is a hypothetical, neutral party in the dialogue over Iran's nuclear program, it certainly seems that the US/Kuma voice is going to come across as the louder (and possibly more persuasive) voice.
In any case, I definitely want to play it. I've been hunting for a download, but haven't found one yet. If someone does come across one, please let me know.
So what do you think? Can games be a viable medium for genuine discourse?
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Totally Justified
I think these Islamists are totally justified in making this game, that it is their right as free peoples, and that their viewpoint should be given the same playing field.
But the truth is, games can help salve the war on terror by providing an outlet for the political rage that many young Muslim men feel. Coupled with a sensible foreign policy, we might actually be able to get the international community, including Middle-Eastern nations, to marginalize terror groups.
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no doubt 4 the right of speach of whom created the game
but, ur naive attitude(and u rnt the only 1, no offence..) is the 1 that is causing the western society 2 host terror in the cities, like london and more, just 4 the "politically correct" of it. i am an israeli. look in my eyes. look and remember my existance in ur world. remember that the israeli country was built and raised out of the nazi hollocaust. remember that there is not even 1 alternative 4 the jewish people 2 walk the streets proud 2 say "im jewish", exept 4 israel itself. if u would learn a bit of israeli history in the 20th century, u would c that we r demonized and chased by the arabs around us. even when we got the UN support 4 indeppendance in 47-48, all arab countries around us tried 2 exterminate us, and, after failing, they keep on trying once in every while.
im not the 1 2 stand up and tell people 2 shut up, and it isnt my purpose in replying u.
it is only a reminder 4 u. read my reply. when the iranis will drop the bomb upon my head, just remember me and know that ur freedom failed and now, after im demolished, they r comming 4 u dude..
they support al-kaida(globaly) and hizballa(in lebanon), in many ways. this morning the american officer in charge of the forces in afghanistan is saying out loud that they keep on discovering around anti armour bombs that r clearly and definitely been given 2 the taliban (the afghanistan muslim extremist terror group) from iran. these r the same bombs that the iranis r supplying to al-kaida in iraq and r killing many people every day, only becase they want democracy(iraqi citizens) or becase they came 2 free the iraqis(american soldiers and international forces) from the tyrani of saddam hussein.
i can understand the irani fear of being attacked by us(israelis) and the USA. the fear is only their fault of keeping their psychopath"president" of evil, Mr ahmedinejad, whos calling 2 destroy israel and america. r we still in the middle ages? this is the "global village" era and the existance of entities who call to destroy others is dangerous 2 every1 and not only 4 the ones who will b destroyed by mr ahmedinejad. israel have no interrest 4 war. just let us live in peace. thats all.
now lets stop mumbling polytics.
lets go play a game.
a real game.
not a game of reality..
cheers and sorry 4 the long word.
ori segal,
israel.
WHAT U"VE JUST SAID
Dear Isreali friend!
I read ur comments on this weblog and decided to write u back as an Iranain.
Firsly let me tell u that not every one agrees with Ahmadi Nejad including ME! secondly, u cannot find any more pro-American country in the region or even the world for your INFORMATION Plus Iranians are not ARABS we are PERSIANs. theirdly, As u just mentioned Isreal DID NOT EXIST till recently! Fourth, U say you suffered from Hulocast! OK!why don't u take some peace of their land????? have u ever thought about that??? DID the Palastainian make the Hulocast??? I know u repeated the Hulocaust for them. I am not supporter of palastine anyway! LETS COME TO REALITY!
That is no disguse to anyone in this world that US supplied AL QAEDA in afganistan while Iran Was supporting AHMAD SHAH MASOUD fighting Taliban. It is no secret that Saddam Hussein was supplied by west attacking IRAN. evidences are AAAAAAABBBBBOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNDANNNNNT.
Again for your Information, current Iraqi government is 100% Pro-Iran as the leaders all used to live Inside Iran during Sadam period. so WHY SHOULD IRAN MAKING TROUBLE FOR ITSELF?
More to the point! Iran fought back Iraq and all the western world behind sadam hussein all alone during 8 years! so that is hilarious when you say Iran is afraid of ISREAL which dose not even exist in our maind.
Despite all said, I do ask u to just take some steps ahead and back from where u are now!
I do respect for u and I think u shouldn't trust ur politicians and THINK FAIRLY.
Let's be honest IRAN never started a war but YOU DID!
Take care Buddy!
my friend..
first of all, i wish u all the best and well and greet u with a great honor. i wish many iranians think like u (meaning - in peace and reason..).
and now 4 some points in reply 2 ur reply 2 my reply to... bla bla.. :)
i never said iran is afraid of israel. the opposite is the true fact : it is clear that iran isnt afraid of israel. we r afraid of u. and it is not out of nowhere or nothing. ur country was a real magic of the east, sadly, just untill the islamic revolution.
and i didnt call u arabs. i know u r persians, which means u r a descendent 2 one of the most glorious civilizations ever existed on the planet, at least to me.. i said that our arab neighbours tried 2 push us away at the same moment the united nation gave their international democratic permission 4 jewish people 2 declare independance in the land muslims call palestine. palestinians, or the people who lived on this said land, had a gr8 chance 2 get recognized as israeli citizens, which promisses equal rights 2 each and every citizen, no matter a male or a femal, a jew, a muslim, or whatever other difference. instead of joining the world mind and help us flourish and make the middle east a well growing second heaven, many had fled to neighbouring countries and just a few styed. this is the basic problem here. we agree that there must b a palestinian state beside us! we agree! did u know that a big part of the anual israeli government fund is going to the palestinian authority? did u know that ever since , mayb untill now, leaders in the palestinians side took themselves a slice of this fund, instead of really use it 2 build the autority? did u know that the first training 2 the palestinian police israel suplied? did u know that there r commands in the israeli army that holds u back from firing only untill theres a life threat? did u c how the palestinians send ther KIDS to throw stones and throw molotovs on israeli troops, just to make the soldiers shoot back? did u think? do u know how many israeli organizations r holding peace projects? did u know?
if we were holding a hollocaust against the palestinians, and we rnt, they were all would b long ago murdered, but we dont want that! we want their good! we wanna live side by side! they belong here the same as we do! time and time again, we try 2 back off and give them the chance 2 hoild back their bomb attacks and qassam rocket bombarments. the moment we hold back, they shoot, as if 2 try and pull us back there... do u really think i wanna serve the army 32 days a year, instead of travel around or whatever else? i wish there was peace with them. i just wish. and i still believe that if there will b enough people who want peace, inunderstanding that both side should get 2 the middle istead of pulling each 2 its side, in the palestinian side as much as I KNOW we (israelis) have in our side - there will b peace!
we r all human beings. we all got the right to have a life and make a living. sad that a few people lead all of us in to clashes just 2 gain power.. and we see and hear, how arab t.v. and radio stations r preaching 2 destroy israel, yes they use the exact saying "destroy".
and they tell lies. do u know that here in israel, when innocent palestinians r killed in the battles in gaza, or wherever else in the palestinian side, israeli soldiers r going to prison 4 clicking 2 fast on the trigger and causing innocent death? did u ever hear about cases like these on the other side?.. the answer is well known. when u got suicide bombers who succeed their task in killing people in a bus inside israel, they turn into shaheeds (marteres). this is wrong and sad. and all along there is a clear evidence that irani money funds the terror organizations..
the israeli people believe in every person's right to live free! know that! u , in ur country should push 4 diplomatic relations with us! im more than eager 2 come and travel ur beautifull country and land. i admire ur history and wish u all well again, in a hope that istead of making war we will make peace and a better world 2 live in, side by side, hand in hand.
i wish that u and me could, in our life time, meet up and drink coffee, play sheshbesh and exchange adresses 2 meet each others home andfamily.
alla maak, ya sakhbi!
ori.
Dear Isreali Freind
Shaloom,
First of all I am glad I am discussing with some one open minded. Secondly I somewhat agree with what u just explained partialy. there r a lot of issues should be addressed in order to get to know what is really going on. I will be happy to be able to discuss them more with u.
my e-mail is persiangringo@yahoo.com
I look forward to hearing more from u.
kind regards
M.S.B.
Blimey looks like we've
Blimey looks like we've gotten started now. Will the problems of the middle-east ever cease? I can tell you one way to start to fix your problems, not that you want to hear, but hey i'll say it anyway!
Stop categorising yourselves by religion! As long as one man says I'm a jew and he's a muslim, or i'm shiite and he's a kofte (:p) you create segregation amongst yourselves. So my point is that STEP ONE (on a very long road) is to start saying things like that is Sahid, just a man, like me. I stress that this wold only be the beginning. Not a wonder cure for your problems.
Also I'd like to approach the idea that maybe BOTH parties are WRONG in the palistine/Isreal arguement. Neither are right. Maybe?
Stop killing yourselves, and eachother. Try peace. You might like it!
ori
you are an i-d-i-o-t - learn some english
why....?
we (moslem) just made one games like this, and u with ure uncle SAMIRI have a lot of many think about games
SO..... why ....
its just games ok
hmm israel people so paranoid
we cannot kill u with this game but we can defend our teenagers from ure propaganda games
hahahahha why oh why munafik
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